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CNN’s Larry King replacement Piers Morgan interviews mega-star preacher Joel Osteen on his show Wednesday. A preview clip featuring an exchange on homosexuality and gay marriage is surfacing in the news today. Osteen basically says being gay is a sin and it’s not “God’s best choice.” Of course that’s nothing new. What’s surprising is Piers Morgan actually takes Osteen to task on his beliefs, calling him judgmental after Morgan brings up “his friend” Elton John, who Osteen says is living in sin.

Piers Morgan Tonight airs weeknights at 9 on CNN.

Below is a clip of Osteen when he was on The View in 2009, where he spouts the same homophobic rhetoric.

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